Homosexuality and Gay Marriage: Answers to 7 Common Questions

July 3, 2013

question mark - rainbowBecause there are so many questions swirling around this issue, I felt it necessary to address some of the most common ones. This is by no means an exhaustive apologetic on the issues, but hopefully it will be a helpful reference and guide to those who are honestly seeking truth. I desire that my words are read through the heart that I expressed earlier this week. Here goes…Answers to 7 of the most common questions.

1. “Jesus did not speak out against homosexuality, so how can it be wrong?”

You are correct that we don’t have a record of Jesus directly condemning homosexuality. There are many sins that we don’t have a record of Jesus condemning, for instance spousal abuse, drug addiction or gambling. Does this mean that because He was supposedly silent on these issues that we are to believe He affirmed them? Obviously not.

I believe Jesus did address these issue, albeit indirectly, in 4 distinct ways:

1) Because Jesus was a first century Jewish Rabbi He would’ve held to the standard of the Old Testament moral law. In His teachings He always took the ethic of the law higher. His treatment of adultery (Mat 5:27-28), murder (Mat 5:21-22), divorce (Mat 5:31-32), and lying (Mat 5:33-35) give clear indication that he held to all the standards of Old Testament moral law, which would include the prohibition on homosexuality.

2) We get the prohibition for adultery from a variety of Old Testament passages, Ex. 20:14, Lev. 20:10, Deu 5:18, Deu 22:22-24,) as well as Leviticus 18:20. Leviticus 18 is also where we get the prohibition for homosexuality. It makes little sense that Jesus would have embraced the prohibition on adultery and departed from the prohibition on homosexuality.

3) Jesus reinforced that from the beginning God’s intent for marriage was a man and a woman, husband and wife, as long as they were alive (Mat 19:4-6). This is the only pattern that He ever affirmed. Had He affirmed something different surely He would have made that clear.

4) In Matthew 15:19, Jesus condemns all forms of “sexual immorality” as defiling and destructive. As a first century Jew, homosexuality would have obviously been a part of this prohibition.

2.You can’t use Leviticus 18 as standard because you don’t follow the other parts of the law like the prohibition on shellfish(Lev 11:9-12), using two types of seeds to sow in a field(Lev 19:19), or two types of cloth in a garment(Lev 19:19). Leviticus 18 obviously doesn’t apply any more.

In the Old Testament we find a large list of laws. The key to understanding these laws is recognizing that every law was not written for every person. Some laws were specifically directed toward Israel. These laws did not apply to the other nations. We know that they were directed to Israel because God used the phrase, “Speak to the Sons of Israel, saying…” Here’s a short list of examples in Leviticus: 7:23, 11:2(animals they couldn’t eat), 7:29(peace offerings), 12:2(uncleanness after child birth). These laws were specifically directed toward Israel to differentiate and separate them from the other nations.

Old Testament laws were broken down into three categories: 1) Civil/Judicial – governed the culture of Israel 2) Ceremonial – governed the customs of Israel 3) Moral – governed the conduct of Israel.

The moral laws are where we get the Ten Commandments, as well as the prohibitions for adultery, incest, and homosexuality. While the ceremonial and civil laws only applied to the nation of Israel, the moral laws were universal laws that applied to all the nations. We know this for a couple of reasons:

1) God addressed other nations and judged them because they broke His moral laws. Specifically in Leviticus 18:24-25, He states that He  judged others nations for these sins and that He was removing them from their lands as a result.

2) The moral laws dealt with issues of righteousness and justice. The moral laws were based upon God’s character. Just as God’s character is unchanging so are His moral laws.

Though the ceremonial and civil laws only had specific application to Israel, the moral laws were applicable to all the nations and are still applicable today. He is the same yesterday, today and forever (Heb 13:8).

3. “Didn’t Jesus come to over turn the law and institute grace?”

Jesus came to bring grace and truth (John 1:17). In His treatment of the law He offered interpretations to passages that were misused by Jewish Rabbis for their own benefits. He did not come to abolish the law but to fulfill it (Mat 5:15). If Jesus’ teaching fully abolished the moral standards of the law then murder, adultery, thievery, blasphemy, etc, would be permissible in the New Testament. That is obviously not the case.

4. “Paul said we’re not under law, but under grace.”

We are under grace, thank God! We live in an hour where we don’t experience immediate judgment for our sin. At this time God is extending to humanity the opportunity to choose righteousness. Grace, however, is not a license to sin. Paul said, “Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? May it never be! (Romans 6:3)” He also explained, “The grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age (Titus 2:11-12).” Grace by no means affirms sin, it calls us out of it, even encouraging us to deny our own desires that we may walk in righteousness. That fact that we’re under grace means that we now have the power to overcome sin. Overcoming sin can be a process. We may fall many times. But it is by grace that we are able to repent, get back up and press into righteous living.

5. “I was born this way”

You were created in the image and likeness of God, just like every other human being who has ever lived. And because of this you are loved by God. However, each of us is part of a fallen human race. Because of our fallen nature we are all in need of God’s saving and delivering power. Because of our fallen nature sin comes naturally. To say that you were “born this way” is to simply agree with the fact of our fallen sin nature and our need for God’s delivering power. In a certain sense we are all “born this way.” We are all born with a tendency toward sin, whether it’s lying, stealing, murdering, or sexual immorality, we are all deeply in need of God’s delivering power to set us free from our fallen state. Despite the fact that there have been many scientific studies on this issue, there has been no conclusive scientific evidence that anyone is “born gay.” We are all, however, born into sin and desperately in need of a Savior.

6. “How can it be wrong if two people truly love one another? Love can’t be denied!”

This sounds so right. I mean, who can disagree that love is to be the governor of all of our actions? Actually, Jesus made a distinction. Jesus placed boundaries on love. “He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me (Mat 10:37).” According to Jesus, love can dramatically interfere with an individual’s relationship with God. Two people may have deep love for one another, pledging their hearts in faithfulness; yet, this in itself doesn’t justify a relationship, be it heterosexual or homosexual.

God instructs us how to love. Love must be on His terms. The first rule of love is that it cannot contradict His ways. Love alone is not an adequate sanctifier. Love of money, for instance, is “the root of all sorts of evil (1 Tim 6:10).” Human love, by itself, cannot be our standard.

7. “Why can’t I be Gay and be a Christian? I know Jesus loves me, so what’s wrong with that?”

You are absolutely right that Jesus loves you. He is God with us. He came to express the love of God to us. He loves you deeply.

Jesus’ name is Yeshua, which means “Yahweh saves”. Matthew 1:21 says, “He will save His people from their sins.” Because Jesus loves you, He came to save you. He didn’t come to leave you in your sins; He came to save you from your sins. Whether it’s hatred, greed, anger, lust or sexual immorality, Jesus came and died on your behalf to set you free from the bondage of sin and ultimately deliver you from its penalty.

Jesus said, “If you love me, keep my commands” (John 14:15). We express our love for Jesus by following His ways. God never condemns anyone for how they feel. We must realize, however, the way we feel doesn’t dictate what is right and wrong. Our feelings are not the measure of morality. If our feelings were the standard designed to dictate our actions there would be no end to the darkness of humanity.

Furthermore, you are not defined by what you feel or by what you do. Your identity is far more than your sexual desires. You are created in the image and likeness of God, one who is deeply loved by God. From this identity we can find out who God has intended us to be.

There are many people who love Jesus and struggle with the temptations of same sex attractions. Those who continue to lean into righteousness with a sincere heart while rejecting sin, though they may fall, are accepted. Struggling with sin and overcoming it by grace is a common state for all believers. Some struggle with anger, others with lusts. The specific struggle is not the issue, it’s faith in Jesus from a sincere heart that rejects sin and desires holiness.

On the other hand, those who continue to walk in sin, no matter what the sin is, as a part of their lifestyle while still claiming Christ are in danger of judgment. Hebrews 10:26 – 27 gives a fearsome warning, “For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries.”

My desire is to call you into real freedom through the power of Jesus. There is forgiveness and cleansing available to you. All who call upon the name of Jesus will be saved. As a former alcoholic, drug user, bound with sexual immorality, I can attest to the liberating power of Jesus to set you free. Liberty is available in Jesus to all who want it.

27 responses to Homosexuality and Gay Marriage: Answers to 7 Common Questions


    So… basically you just took a bunch of incredibly legitimate questions and bent the biblical information into a skewered mess in order to justify your own prejudice against homosexuality. LOL, nice. Regarding the Leviticus thought process, that’s friggin’ hilarious. In one sweeping breath you make an excuse as to why you don’t need to follow any of the other laws outlined in Leviticus, because it doesn’t apply to you because you’re not Jewish, essentially and they aren’t “moral laws”, but you then bend the rules to say that the moral laws apply to everybody and you back this up with completely unrelated scripture that states nothing of the sort. Basically, you’re making up crap as you go along — you can’t find legitimate or concrete reasonings behind your bias against homosexuality, so you’re flopping around like a fish out of water, gasping for air and grabbing for any damn thing you can think of to help justify what is essentially a personal bias against homosexuals.

    It’s actually quite hilarious. From a logical point of view — let’s say a moderated debate — you would be laughed off the stage for your inability to exhibit any kind of actual argument for your stance that would be able to stand up and hold its own in the light of scrutiny, study, and evidence. Pathetic and sad.



      Thanks for your comment. I’m guessing Anon is not your real name. 🙂

      It seems like you’re judging me when you say I’m just trying to “justify a personal bias against homosexuals.” I’m sure you don’t know anything about me or my interactions with homosexuals. If you knew me at all you’d know your assessment is simply a broad based judgment, not rooted in reality.

      Also it’s difficult to claim that I don’t make any substantive points, though I have many references to back up what I’ve written, all the you offer nothing substantive of your own.

      It’s totally ok, I know that this is a very emotionally charged topic. My hope is that we can differ and be decent to one another.

      If you’re interested in honestly discussing truth, that’s why I’m writing. If not, that’s fine. We’ll have to agree to differ and move on.

      Again, Thanks for your comment. Blessings!


      DUDE! I appreciate your passion and all but this was a bit over the top :/
      Im not sure what your motive was exactly but if was to be informative, you didn’t provide anything substantial. If it was to show how homosexuality is legitimized in scripture, you offered nothing. But if your whole point was to be offensive, mean spirited and judgmental, then you knocked the ball out of the park!
      You dont even know Billy and you think you know the intentions of his heart and that he is “prejudice against homosexuals”. Why is it that if a person has a different opinion than you, that makes him “prejudice”. I know for sure that Billy loves those that are in homosexual lifestyles even though he differs in his opinion on the morality of it. I also know that Billy loves “alcoholics” and “gamblers” but differs with their lifestyle too, yet no one is accusing him or any other christian for that matter of being “prejudice against Boozers”. Its just a difference of opinion. From your post, it would be easy to classify you as a “Christian Hater” and someone who is “prejudice” against those who hold a biblical perspective because of the two post (yours and Billy’s), yours was clearly the one venting with anger and sarcasm.
      To your point about Leviticus, Billy’s perspective on the moral laws verse the ceremonial/dietary laws of the nation of Israel is actually a very common biblically established theology held by many scholars and theologians since the birth of Christianity. In fact, even in the New Testament, the council of Jerusalem made a distinction between the Jewish and Gentile Christians in their expression of Christianity in that Gentiles did not have to adopt the Mosaic law but still had to abide by the moral law of abstaining from idolatry and sexual immorality (Acts 15). Both Jesus and Paul, in the New Testament upholds all the moral laws of the Old Testament to both Jewish hearers and Gentile hearers. This is why a christian cannot murder, steal or commit adultery today. It was written as a moral law that was given before the Mosaic law and abides even under the new covenant.
      If your argument is from a atheistic reasoning then thats one thing but if your accusing Billy of not offering a biblical understanding, then I would say its only because your not understanding the bible. If you don’t care about the bible, then this was probably the wrong blog to troll…


      Hey Anon! Thanks for heating up the discussion on here! 🙂

      Just to let you know, Billy’s exposition on Leviticus 18 is a standard interpretation that most bible scholar and students agree on. Without the proper understanding of cultural context for any passage of scripture written – there would be complete anarchy in the area of biblical interpretation – with everyone coming up with a different meaning – if anything goes, everything goes. Surely if John writes a love letter to Doe, anyone could read it and interpret what John meant by it, but at the end of the day – only John knows what he meant when he wrote it. It’s the same with the bible (and anything written for that matter) – not understanding the heart and context behind anything written will always lead to confusion. That’s why bible scholars study for years the context in which the bible was written and go to God directly for what He meant by the text, while properly utilizing the historical study tools available to interpret correct meaning. It’s a huge topic obviously, but is standard biblical exegesis the world over.

      But obviously, you probably couldn’t give a *&^%^$# – am I right? 😉

      What’s most important, is that you know how beautiful, amazing and wonderfully made you are! Lovers of Jesus are called to be just that – lovers! Forgive us Christians for all the times we’ve been anything else. What is true and what is right is supposed to be just as much in our blood as love is! That is why we are passionate about the bible and sometimes write whole articles about it.

      But even if you never see that point of view, what matters is that the Lord loves you and we love you – not because you fit a certain mold and category in society and therefore need our pity and ministry – but because it’s the fundamental truth of who you are – loved by God and loved by those that truly know and love Him!

      Bless you! 🙂

    Levonne Leuenberger July 3, 2013 at 1:23 pm

    “Our feelings are not the measure of morality.” So true but that’s where America is today isn’t it? “I know what the Bible says but I just FEEL that this is OK. So let’s call everyone who doesn’t feel the same way biased, haters, whatever.” They totally miss the point that grace allows us freedom FROM sin: all sin…even the politically correct ones.


    The key thing for me, and I think you make this distinction but it doesn’t seem to be overly clear, is the distinction between orientation and behavior. When someone says they are gay, in virtually all (if not 100% of the time) they are referring to their orientation. Many gay Christians do not act on these desires/orientation for the sake of Christ and for the reasons you’ve given. But they haven’t stopped being gay. God has not changed their orientation, and the number of those where he hasn’t far outnumber those where he has (and even in those case, the majority they’ve just changed their behavior) Now having a desire/orientation is not justification to act on it, but the distinction is important. One is condemning a persons actions, the other is condemning a person.

    Just my thoughts


      @Graham, I’m not sure if make the distinction the same way you are. I’d be more likely to identify thoughts/feelings vs. actions. Thanks for your comment.

      Sent from my iPhone

      On Jul 3, 2013, at 3:52 PM, “billyhumphrey.com”


    You stick to the truth of Scripture & have compassion for gays & I think that’s a great approach. When gays see Christians, too often they don’t see love. Here’s a question I have (& I’m not gay, by the way). Can we use Heb 10:26 to categorically say a practicing gay…or any other person practicing sin…is not a Christian? I totally agree with you that the Bible makes it plain that sex outside of man & woman in marriage is sin but the Bible also says in Christ God remembers our sin no more…all sin dealt with, as it says in Hebrews & elsewhere, “once & for all” at the cross. If a person tells me they’ve given their heart to the Lord & believed in his work & the cross & the resurrection, & then that person is a practicing gay or practicing sin of any sort, I have to leave it to the Lord about whether they’re saved or not. If they say they believe in Jesus, it’s hard for me to say “no, you have too much sin in your life to be a Christian.” I have to take them at their word, not put a yardstick to their sin. If they are not saved, I know its based not on whether they sin or not but based on their faith, or lack thereof. Scripture can’t contradict itself so I think we have to be careful w/ Heb. 10:26 or we can wind up believing salvation is by works or that there is a ‘line’ that we cross where God says “that’s too much willful sin” & then he erases our name from the book of life. 10:26 talks about receiving “the knowledge” of the truth…not the truth itself. Judas hung around Jesus a lot & received knowledge of the truth but not Truth. In light of rest of Scripture, 10:26 may make more sense seeing it as referring to unbelievers who, indeed, will receive judgment—not because of their sin but because they did not receive the once & for all sacrifice for their sin. Lack of faith in the free gift of salvation, not crossing a line in sin, is what brings judgment.
    I think if we are ministering to a gay person & we say “you are not a Christian because you are gay,” then that pretty much ends the conversation. If they say they gave their heart to the Lord & we accept that, (knowing that only God knows for sure), maybe we could then encourage them to fall deeper in love with Jesus knowing that it’s hard to truly do that & live in sin. The Holy Spirit convicts unbelievers of sin so if they are an unbeliever, he’ll let them know. If they are a believer, he will convict them of their righteousness–let them know that they are a new creation & living in sin is not how a believer should live. When the prodigal son wallowed in the pig pen he was still a son!
    Bottom line is let’s be true to what the Word plainly says about gay sin & also be true to what it says about loving our brothers in Christ. And let’s trust that the grace that brought the prodigal to his senses can do the same for gays or anyone else.
    Just my two cents worth, brother!


      Thanks for your comment. Two quick points:

      1) I tried to be gentle & open to God’s mercy with my language by offering a warning, “are in danger of judgment.” I think that’s a safe way to convey the severity of Hebrews 10:26 while still leaving the outcome to The Lord.

      2) I think Hebrews 10:26 is addressed to believers because it says, ” If WE go on sinning willfully…” The WE makes it pretty clear who is being addressed.

      Thanks for your comment!


        Thanks Billy. I think the “we” depends on the context. This was written to the Hebrews and it could be “we” includes all of them (saved and unsaved). If we are to interpret this verse as saying that there is a line in the sand where too much willful sin results in losing salvation, then there’s a problem with Rom. 8:1 and many other verses. Is there condemnation for some people (willful sinners) who are in Christ? Did Jesus die for just sin that was not willful or for all sin? My point is if you are “in Christ” based on the free gift of his righteousness, not based on works, then how can you lose the gift based on works? You can’t ‘saint your way’ into salvation (earn it) and you can’t ‘sin your way’ out of it. If so, we’d have to rethink II Cor 5:21 because Jesus became something he did not earn (sin) so we could become something we did not earn (righteous). I see that verse as saying the terrifying judgment is for those not in Christ. In Christ, God remembers sin no more.


        @Charlie And so now we’re talking about perseverance of the saints or once saved always saved…A little bit adrift from the OP 🙂

        On Jul 3, 2013, at 9:09 PM, “billyhumphrey.com”


    Thank you Billy! this was perfect, however everyone else… lets please keep the emotions down. There no need to get angry at your opponent …always tell the truth in love, patience, and kindness.


    Billy, this a great article. It is the best I have read on the subject. The issue of homosexuality really is a huge crisis for people in our age group. I have really been wanting to search this out in the scriptures which feels a little overwhelming, but you broke it down and gave me a great starting point!


      @Rachael, Great to hear from you! Much love to you & David. Thanks for the encouragement. You are right that it is only a starting point. Blessings!

      Sent from my iPhone

      On Jul 3, 2013, at 5:05 PM, “billyhumphrey.com”


    Thank you for so thoroughly addressing this topic for us. As a Christian, I want to approach this topic with compassion and truth and really hadn’t seen it addressed in such a practical way. Thank you so much for being courageous enough to put your thoughts in print.


    Billy, I really love your thoughts on this matter. As a young adult, it’s extremely relevant in my life and the lives of those around me.
    I’ve had a question that has been on my heart and I would love to get your thoughts on it. Say I have a gay friend who has partaken in the lifestyle and knows the sin they have committed..what do I tell them? What can they do? It hurts me to know that if they truly want to live a holy life, then it seems the only way is to live it alone.
    I had a beloved family member who dealt with this (he passed away a few years ago) and he was a lonely and hurting man. It’s not like he could just marry a woman and saddle her to his struggles or live with me. he could have no true companion like those who are married have. The church at that time was even more ignorant and just as hurtful on the matter then as well.
    It just seems like the only option for a gay person is to be alone and it just hurts my heart so much. Perhaps that’s the thorn in their side like many of us may also have. It just seems so much harder to deal with than other sins because it pervades nearly every area of their lives.

    Anyway, I hope I’ve made sense and I look forward to hearing from you.


      @Alex, These issues are without question very challenging. I’m one who believes a person can get delivered of any sin, including homosexuality. But let me be quick to say, there is no cookie cutter approach. The bible offers steps to help people walk into freedom, i.e. repentance, forgiveness, deliverance, healing etc. To be sure, we must offer understanding, care, & love to anyone who’s struggling as your friend was. I’ve personally walked through this with several people and found that though each individual is different, the power of Jesus’ blood is effective for all.

      Thanks for your comment. Blessings.

      On Jul 3, 2013, at 6:18 PM, “billyhumphrey.com”


    These are hard topics to talk about openly and I appreciate your help and steerage in showing us how the bible deals with homosexuality. Homosexuality is clearly forbidden throughout the bible and you gave sufficient and clear proof of that through all the careful references interlaced in your message above.

    I find people like to choose what they believe they will follow in the bible….a little bit of this and that…and I don’t think that really works because we either accept the Word or we don’t….

    What I can’t stand is how wrong the Church as a whole has come against the homosexual agenda….and you are right…its time for the Church’s ways to change in order to clear all of the hatred that has been set in the world. This is a time to show unity and love through the body of the Christw.

    I believe Homosexuality stems from pain, fear, mis-treatment, abuse…and hatred and we as biblically based Christians will certainly not solve it from just dishing out the same.

    The God Hates Fags campaigns and the hate websites must stop as it comes from the enemy and is hurtful and destructive…I wish groups of Christians would go out to heal those groups to show them a better way to go about helping to Heal the Kingdom.

    Thank you for your bravery Billy.


    Mr. Humphrey, thank you so much for sharing such a timely, well articulated post!

    I really appreciate how you tell it like it is while being gentle with this sensitive subject. This is definitely something I’d feel good about sharing with a struggling friend or an unsure believer.


    Almost all the chapters of Leviticus, including 18 and 20, where you find the prohibitions against homosexuality, begin with “speak to the sons of Israel.” Leviticus 18 and 20 each appear to be a continuous speech from God to Moses. How is it that Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 don’t apply only to Israel in your argument?

    Also, Leviticus 20:13 seems to command people to put to death any man who has had homosexual intercourse, not to minister to them and encourage them to change their ways. If Jesus endorsed Old Testament law, shouldn’t you demand death for practicing homosexuals, rather than approaching them with love?



      Thanks for your questions.

      Q: How is it that Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 don’t apply only to Israel in your argument? We know that certain laws applied to other nations because God said they did. Though the entire address was from Moses to Israel, God differentiated certain laws as inclusive of other nations by saying so, “Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. Even the land was defiled; so I punished it for its sin(Lev 18:23-25a)”

      Q: If Jesus endorsed Old Testament law, should you demand death for practicing homosexuals, rather than approaching them with love? There is a long list of activities, not only homosexuality, in the Old Testament that were punishable by death. These included: Adultery (Lev 20:10-12), Blasphemy (Levitcus 24:16), Idolatry (Exodus 22:20), Rebellion (Exodus 21:15) and many others. Everyone is guilty when we are judged by the standard of the law. This is ultimately the purpose of the law: to identify to humanity our need for a Savior to deliver us. The wages of sin is death. Under the Old Testament, physical death was the penalty for many sins.

      Paul described the law rightly calling it, “the law of sin and death(Romans 8:2).” He further explained that the law was weak because of the weakness of the human state, i.e. people are too enslaved to sin to live righteously without God’s power(grace) enabling them. “What the law was powerless to doGod did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man, in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us(Romans 8:3-5)” In other words, Jesus came to die for all of us to pay the penalty for our sins. The reason that we don’t seek death for those who break the moral law of God is because we are no longer under the law, but under grace. The law came through Moses, but grace and truth were realized through Jesus. This is love, that God would send His Son to take upon Himself the penalty of us all by dying in our place. Jesus offers new life to anyone who will turn from their sin and receive His offer of forgiveness.

      Why don’t I demand the death penalty for sinners? Because Jesus already died for sinners. The standard of the law is still in place in the New Testament, the penalty for breaking the standard has been placed upon Jesus.

      Jesus now invites all of us to accept His payment for breaking God’s moral standards. Jesus’ example with the woman caught in adultery is the proper posture for all His followers. Rather than taking up stones to hurl at the woman, He rebuked those standing by that judged her and stooped in the dirt with her to call her out of her sin. This is why I reach out in love.


        But, Billy, you said “We know that they were directed to Israel because God used the phrase, “Speak to the Sons of Israel, saying…” You said that those laws were to differentiate Israel from the nations surrounding it. (Why would God want to do that?) Leviticus 18 and 20 both start with “speak to the sons of Israel, saying…”, and in the end of Leviticus 18 God says specifically, “Don’t do this because this is what Egypt did.” Isn’t that a perfect example of a law meant to differentiate Israel from Egypt? “We’re not like those guys because they eat pork and have gay sex. We’re better than them.”

        And as for your second answer, I guess it may be too large a topic to address here, but it speaks to the central problem of Christianity for me. You’re saying that God created an impossible system – a system with laws that no human can obey, thus damning us all. “This is ultimately the purpose of the law: to identify to humanity our need for a Savior to deliver us.” Then he rescued us from the system he created with the sacrifice of Jesus, and we ought to be grateful for that. “This is love, that God would send His Son to take upon Himself the penalty of us all by dying in our place.” It’s like a king who makes it illegal to eat food and breathe air, then pardons you when you’re thrown in his prison and expects you to love him for it.

        I feel like it would be much more honest to simply say, “God is a terrifying, all-powerful sky monster who can burn you literally for eternity. You need to worship him so that he will, possibly, not cause you to be tortured forever.”


        I’ll admit, the picture you paint is pretty bleak. I understand why you say everything you’ve written above. I’d probably feel the same way you do if things were as you say. Thank GOD, that’s just not how it is.

        God’s point in giving the law was never to differentiate Israel in order to identify them as better than everyone else. To the contrary, Israel’s failure to keep the law showed that they were no different than all the other nations. The law was their tutor as it is ours, to bring us to Jesus.

        In regard to how we know it applies to other nations, when we see God holding the nations of the earth responsible for breaking His moral laws, that’s a clear indicator. There are scores of scriptures that exemplify this.

        I’ll refer you to Genesis 1 in hopes you’ll rethink the “system” God created. I think you’ll find that God placed Adam & Eve in a paradise, enjoying perfect intimacy with Himself. It was Adam & Eve who chose to rebel, setting in motion a vast array of horrific events. At the center was the inability for God and man to dwell together in intimacy because of the stain of sin. Jesus accomplishes the rescue, taking the penalty for Adam’s sin, and EVERY PERSON AFTER HIM, upon Himself for love in order to restore intimacy.

        Blessings to you man! Thanks again for your comments and good attitude.


    no one really likes to admit that we all sin and how we have to put natural sin to death in our bodies as we are called to “die daily”.
    Rev 21:8- the Alpha and Omega said the sexually immoral will go to the lake of fire (along with other sinners). Im not saying that homosexuality is a greater sin than others; Im saying that it Is a sin and that heaven will not, cannot, tolerate anyone with sin that isnt covered by Jesus’ blood.
    Well written sir, even if some do not understand and call you a fool.
    wisdom will be justified in the end.


    This is really thorough, Billy. Of course any time you use the Bible as a legitimate plumb line, those who scoff at the Scripture’s validity will throw out the entire argument. However, the one thing NO ONE can throw out is testimony. I’ve been set free from homosexuality, as have other friends of mine. Our stories are real examples of God’s ability to overcome the ways of the flesh. I now have a wife and two daughters…. Sexual attraction is no foundation for identity. I thank God He never let me settle for the downward spiral I mistakenly exalted as an unchangeable variable in my existence. He delivered me and countless others because it is not His plan for mankind. I’m just a first fruit of His love for the homosexual community, and proof that true Love will win. Keep writing, Billy!


      @Nathanael, Thanks for your comment, my friend!

      Your story is a huge inspiration to so many. It must continue to be told. Thank you Jesus for Your delivering power & love!

      Love you so much, bro!

      On Jul 5, 2013, at 7:11 PM, “billyhumphrey.com”


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